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Public Challenge For Debate
(Divorce & Remarriage)
April 14, 2015
As noted elsewhere on this website, an Open Bible Study on the subject of divorce and remarriage was conducted in Seminole, OK on March 14, 2015. Brother Malcomb Kniffen represented brethren and sisters taking the “no-exception” position. For the uninitiated, that means Brother Kniffen taught there is no exception whatsoever for a Christian to divorce and remarry. I (George Battey) took the position there is a cause for divorce and remarriage taught by the Lord Himself – the cause of sexual unfaithfulness (fornication) (Mt 5:32; 19:9). During his first speech, Brother Kniffen made the following statement:
Alright, I don’t have time to cover the rest of the stuff I’d like to cover. But I’ll just kind’a play along here a little bit for my last seven or eight minutes. Thirty minutes! Can ya’ll imagine! Shoo’ll. I’ll just have to bite my tongue on that one. Thirty minutes. I don’t know how either one of us can really prove our position in thirty minutes.
[23:09 into speech]
How serious was Brother Kniffen about this statement? How serious are his fellow preaching brethren? Do they really want to present what they believe to brethren who do not believe or do not know their position? I wrote a letter to the following preachers:
These are leading men among the no-exception brethren. The letters I wrote to each man may be viewed below. These letters were mailed on March 25, 2015. The letters were sent certified mail, signed for, and the certified postcard returned to me. Each of the above preachers received their letter along with signed propositions for debate. Brother Jerry Johnson is the only preacher to this date (April 14, 2015) who wrote back. He wrote the following:
Bro. Battey, I received your letter dated March 25, 2015. Thank you, but I have never had an interest in debates.
Jerry Johnson, March 31, 2015
Brother Dwight Hendrickson wrote the following in a review posted on his website:
Brother George Battey commented on the “Open Study†in Seminole, Oklahoma in a cover letter for a proposition for a formal, four-night debate on the subject of divorce and remarriage, that he sent to some of us. He commented: “there were approximately 300 people present and the audience was evenly divided – half favoring the no-exception position and half favoring the exception position.†Brother Battey also commented in his cover letter, “I believe our study together proved two things: (a) people are interested and will attend an open study on the divorce question and (b) brethren can conduct themselves in honorable manner during such discussions.†He also said, “Those who commented felt that, although the study was good, the time allotted for the study was inadequate to fully cover the subject matter. Brother Clint DeFrance [sic] issued a challenge for a longer, four night debate to fully discuss the topic.â€
http://dwightopines.blogspot.com/2015/04/review-of-kniffenbattey-debate-in.html (accessed 4/11/15)
Brother Hendrickson obviously received my letter requesting a debate and references the challenge made by Brother Clint DeFrance, but he has never responded to the challenge – neither privately nor publicly. He writes boldly in the safety of his office. He writes condescendingly where no reply can be made. He does not accept an invitation to debate. Perhaps the mailman will deliver a response tomorrow, but as of this writing (April 14, 2015) there has been no response from Brothers Dwight Hendrickson, Malcomb Kniffen, and Raymond Stiner. Brothers Richard Aegerter and Jerry Perryman have both stated (October 2, 2014) they would not debate orally.
In a review of the Open Bible Study, Brother Don Bounds wrote the following:
Brother Clint DeFrance moderated and held the much maligned position of keeper of the time. His performance was both fair and equitable. He concluded with an appeal for more dialog or discussion. He proposed a discussion of the same topic which might span four nights and offer more depth in discussion.
On this proposal, I shall opine. First let me say I have no objection to oral discussions such as proposed; with one caveat. They must be conducted under the umbrella of brotherly love and remain in the best interest of our endless pursuit of objective truth. It must be devoid of bombast, egos, and personal attacks. The presence of such shall allow discussion to devolve into quarreling, which the scriptures condemn.
There is another possibility. I shall take the liberty of proposing another venue: written discussion. This is my thinking on that matter. In my lifetime, I have heard numerous discussions of the oral nature. Though having an attraction, they have limitations. Even if the time frame were extended, it is unlikely to address the issue adequately. Such discussion is colored greatly by the oratorical skills of the presenters. Oral arguments tend to become more personal and to a large degree, are dependent on the quality of the orator. Much depends on the polemic skills of the speaker rather than maximum exposure of facts.
The written discussion is more deliberative and can remain more focused on factual presentation. Time constraints may cause speakers to choose an assertion or defense without adequate forethought. Written discussion allows side by side comparative study. Brothers, do we just want a contest or is objective truth to be paramount?
The Voice of the Turtle, April 2015, pp. 24-25.
In response to the above, I wrote to Brother Bounds asking for both an oral debate and a written debate. (See my letter below.) Brother Bounds has not had time to respond as of this writing. I hope he will respond and I hope he will accept the proposal for debate. If Brother Bounds accepts the challenge, I hope his fellow no-exception brethren and sisters will come to the debate and listen – I know my own brethren and sisters will attend.
This post is offered to the public so as to keep brethren and sisters informed of what is and what is not occurring. If anyone wants to know, “Why are the no-exception preachers not willing to have a public debate on the marriage question?” it is not because they were not asked. Suppose for a moment that a Baptist preacher were challenging these preachers to a public debate on the subject of baptism:
Surely none of the above excuses would be offered to a Baptist preacher. Surely one preacher from among the no-exception leaders would step forward and stand for the truth on baptism. Why not do the same on the “marriage question”? Is it not equally important? Was not Jesus an example of publicly debating the truth? (Mt 22). Were the apostles not an example? (Acts 15).
The Seminole Study demonstrated beyond doubt that people from both sides of the “marriage question” can gather together, treat each other warmly, listen to both sides of a discussion, and walk away with food for thought. The Seminole Study demonstrated “no-exception preachers” and “exception preachers” can preach their positions without demeaning one another. The Seminole Study demonstrated public discussions can be a spiritual feast without devolving into bitter hostility. Humbly I appeal to those reading these words to appeal to these preachers and encourage them to step forward to defend what they believe to be the truth.
Sincerely,
George Battey
April 14, 2015
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VITAL BIBLE DOCTRINES WORKBOOK
(George Battey)
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I am pleased to bring to you the present workbook: Vital Bible Doctrines. This book contains the following eleven lessons:
 Lesson 1: The Word Of God
 Lesson 2: How To Interpret The Bible
 Lesson 3: Will Good People From Every Church Be Saved? (pt. 1)
 Lesson 4: Will Good People From Every Church Be Saved? (pt. 2)
 Lesson 5: Is The Church Necessary For Salvation?
 Lesson 6: Identifying The Lord’s Church
 Lesson 7: Establishing Authority
 Lesson 8: “Religious Competition”
 Lesson 9: Obeying God
 Lesson 10: Death And The Judgment
 Lesson 11: Miraculous Power
This booklet was first printed in 1995 and contained only nine lessons at that time. Inquiries and encouragement from a sister in Christ (“BL”) have prompted the posting of this material on this website. Hopefully others will find these lessons useful in study with others. Have you ever been asked to go to someone’s house to conduct a Bible study? Have you fretted and worried, “What shall I study with this person?” Perhaps the present worksheets can provide a solution to that quandary.
Consider printing off each lesson and using it in study with others. The PDF version is ready to print “as is.” The MS Word version is provided for those who wish to reformat the text to fit their needs.
The lessons are based on the wording found in the New King James Version (NKJV). An “answer key” is also posted for those who which to check their answers with the correct/expected answers.
 May God bless the reading and study of His blessed word,
George Battey (April, 2015)
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On March 14, 2015, about 300 people gathered at the Jeff Johnston Fine Arts Center on the campus of Seminole State College. The congregation in Seminole, Oklahoma was hosting its 8th Open Bible Study. (The other 7 Studies are posted on this website.) This present Study involved the subject of divorce and remarriage. The speakers were Malcomb Kniffen (Lorena, TX) and George Battey (Seminole, OK). Both speakers are members of the church of Christ. Both speakers agree that in communion only one loaf of unleavened bread and one cup with unfermented fruit of the vine are authorized by the Lord. Both speakers agree the modern practice of public “Bible Classes” are unscriptural because classes violate the rules governing all assemblies of the church (1 Cor 14). Yet in spite of so many agreements, the two speakers differ on the subject of marriage and divorce.
Malcomb Kniffen was the first speaker. He preached 30 minutes on the assigned topic: “There is no-exception for divorce and remarriage in the gospel age.” To be more accurate, Malcomb Kniffen actually believes Christians may divorce for many causes; he believes remarriage is sinful if the divorced parties marry someone besides their original spouse. This particular detail is not noticeable during Brother Malcom’s sermon, but it is brought to light during the question and answer session.
George Battey was the second speaker. He likewise preached 30 minutes on the assigned topic: “There is an exception for divorce and remarriage in the gospel age (Mt 5:32; 19:9).” Brother George believes all divorce to be sinful except in the one instance where an innocent spouse divorces a guilty fornicator. In this particular case an exception was made by the Lord Himself (Mt 5:32; 19:9). In the case where fornication is involved, the innocent spouse is authorized to divorce the guilty fornicator and the innocent spouse alone is authorized to remarry someone else. The guilty party is never authorized to remarry again.
After a 15 minute intermission, the audience regathered for the Question and Answer session. Malcomb Kniffen fielded questions first. This session would last 30 minutes. Any man in the audience was invited to come forward and stand in line before a microphone. The questioner was limited to 30 seconds. The questioner was instructed to ask a single, one-part question without making comments. After asking a question, the questioner was asked to either sit down or go to the back of the line if he wished to ask another question. The questioner was not free to stand at the microphone and argue with Brother Malcomb. Some of the questioners proved they were either unable to understand the rules or they did not view the rules as applying to them. Brother Clint DeFrance was the moderator in charge of enforcing the rules, but how are rules enforced when brethren do not cooperate? For the most part order prevailed and Brother Clint did as good of a job as any could have done under the circumstances. Rules also applied to Brother Malcomb. He was limited to answering each question within a 2 minute timeframe. In most cases, Brother Malcomb did not need his entire 2 minutes. For the most part, he gave short answers that were less than a minute in length.
George Battey fielded questions for 30 minutes after Brother Malcomb was finished. The same rules applied to the questioners as to the preacher answering the questions.
The audience is to be commended. Good spirits prevailed and everyone treated each other well in spite of disagreeing on a volatile subject. There were many young people present – a good mix of older and younger people from both sides of the issue. As far as we can tell, about half the people present were in agreement with Brother Malcomb and the other half agreed with Brother Battey. The audience was made up of people from all over the country. People came from Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, Ohio, Montana, Indiana, and of course Oklahoma – perhaps other states as well.
Below you will find the audio recordings of the Study along with the PowerPoint charts and the booklet which Brother George wrote and passed out to all the members of the audience. Each member was also provided a copy of Brother Irvin Barnes’ tract, “God Hates Divorce,” a newly published tract available by writing to Brother Irvin (3218 East Farm Road 88, Springfield, MO 65803). Brother Barnes takes the position there is an exception under the gospel age (Mt 5:32; 19:9). There is a charge for Brother Barnes’ booklet ($2.00 per booklet + postage I believe; but check with him to confirm the cost).
During the closing announcements, Brother Clint DeFrance issued a challenge to the no-exception brethren to meet with us in a 4-night debate wherein the “marriage question” could be thoroughly discussed. Surely there is a preacher or leader among the no-exception brethren who would be willing to step forward and represent the no-exception side. We hope this challenge will be accepted soon.
The Seminole congregation wishes to thank the following people and congregations for their part in making the Study possible: the Hwy 53 congregation in Healdton, OK; the Ardmore, OK congregation; the Amarillo, TX congregation; the Dardanelle, AR congregation; Brother Irvin Barnes. Each congregation and Brother Barnes knows what they did to help out and the brothers and sisters of Seminole wish to thank them all profusely for their assistance. Thanks to Brother Clint DeFrance for his efforts as moderator and Brother Shahe Gergian for video recording the study and making the video and audio available at www.ChristianLandmark.com.
We hope to post the video files of this discussion soon, but we wanted to go ahead and post the audio files now. Check back for the video postings in a few days. May God bless the teaching and study of His Holy Word.
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